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The Liberal, 30 Nov 1967, p. 2

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2 THE LIBERAL, Richmond Hill, Ontario. Thursday, Nov. 30, 1967 lithe liberal An Independent Weekly: Established 1878 ...... A.....a,‘._‘.wai\m~m.ww_ ........ , . . George Mayes On.â€" Me Flip Side Wotta week! Greece and Turkey threatening to set off another World War; Britain’s pound de- valuation starting a run on gold that could result in World inflation . . . and then the world-shattering word of Frankie and Sammy splitting with their spouses! . Subscription Rate $4.50 per year; to United States $5.50; 10c single copy Member Audit Bureau of Circulations Member Canadian Weekly Newspapers Association Published by Richmond Hill Liberal Publishing Co. Ltd. W. S. COOK, Publisher “Authorized as second class mail, Post Office Department, Ottawa” '0' i II t t On the other hand, there was a bit of relief in the news of Marshall McLuhan going into a New York hospital for brain surgery. After trying to understand his “communications”, we couldn’t help the uneasy feeling that ONE of us had a problem in this department. Driving Centre For Hill? area. although this is the largest urban concentration in the province and is served by the lone centre at Downsview. The whole of York Coun- Faced with an increasing demand , for driving tests, the Ontario Deâ€" ‘Iy ‘partment of Transport has announced ‘..plans to open ten new driver examin- ation centres and to expand or renoâ€" ty is served by one centre located at vate twelve others this year and Aurora. This is obviously an unsat- next. isfactory situation and we would Transport Minister Irwin Haskett suggest to Queen’s Park that one Of - - the new centres should be located in reports the number of drlvmg tests . this year is running about ten per- Southern York County. Richmond cent ahead of the 1966 figures. De- Hill is ideally situated to service this - heavily populated area. partment examiners last year gave . . . more than 800.000 vision, written and N0? only 13 the provmce faced .W.1th road tests. Part of the additional the Increfistd. demand for drlvmg demand is due to the introduction of tests but If It is to carry (“It Its rec- separate tests for motorcycle drivers. ently announced intention 9f retest- ‘ mg every driver in Ontario during To date transport officials have the next few years. then it certainly decided on the location of four of will need increased staff and facil- the ten new centres. These will be at ities. The establishment of a driver New Liskeard, Wawa, Hawkesbury examination centre in Richmond Hill and Orillia. None of the new centres would alleviate pressures on both the has yet been allocated to the Metro Downsview and Aurora service. i t t i t The British medical journal, Lancet. warns of a new danger confronting our affluent society. It says a recent survey shows an increasing number of people being hit in the eye by champagne corks . . . and getting, we suppose, literally blind drunk. ’4‘ ill It! i # French Culture Note: In Montreal last week, a wholesale butcher testified Expo had been sold meat “unfit for human consumption”. . . . And how does that grab ya? II t t * i One difference in Canada and the United States is that the States, with mobs of Mafia, sees 9. Com- munist behind every tree, under every bed and coming out of the woodwork; while Canada, with comparative crowds of Commies, sees the Mafia behind every tree, etc. one Man} centennial PijeCt Former bank iobber‘Ed'wili Alonzo Boyd was paroled again from Kingston recently and is re- By DORIS M. FITZGERALD ivania to pioneer in Markham'lravel over rough terrain. ander. Road spent considerable porting to be working in Western Canada as a driv- Since. his boyhood days in and Vaughan Townships around when the wagon seams were time doing research in public ing infill-”claw For getaway cars" Elgin Mills, Irwin Hoad has 1800. properly caulked. and the libraries. and found that there ' H ' .. g * ,, g ' (Photo by A. W. Weaver) Former Elgin Mills resident Irwin Hoad built this pioneer covered wagon and stage coach as part of his own Centennial project. A blacksmith by trade Mr. Hoad now resides at Moscow, Ontario near Kingston. Covering the news in a fair and objective manner is the responsiâ€" bility of the newspaper reporter. The reporter must attend the council and school board meetings and then for his readers draw an accurate word picture of the proceedings. Without some prior knowledge of what to ex- pect at a meeting the work of the reporter is made more difficult and the risk of error is increased. It was noted in Gordon McIntyre’s recent study of the educational sys- tem in the Alberta city of Medicine Hat that the board of education sends the agenda for each meeting, prior to the meeting, to the press, radio and television reporters. Mr. Mc- uable for among other things it would allow the reporter to prepare any background material on a subject prior to the meeting. In assigning coverage it would allow an editor to assess the main news points of that particular meeting. It would enable the reporter to brush up on the sub- jects to be discussed. It would also enable him to refresh his memory on what has been done on the same matter on previous occasions and thus be better able to make a more accurate report of the business dis- cussed by council, board or com- mittee. Most government bodies realize . the value of holding meetings open Intyre is the superintendent of the to the press and public. Where the public school system in Richmond taxpayer can’t attend these meetings Hlll- . then it becomes the responsibility of We think the Medicine Hat pro- a free press in a democratic society ceduIre is a good one and one which to keep the people informed. This publlc bodies in this area could adopt. can best be done through the co-oper- A detailed agenda could prove inval- ation of their elected officials. E I been interested in early modes} Now cumbersome curiosities. wheels were removed. they were distinct differences be- “ I ” “r y gen u on e p of transportation. He oftenlthese canvas topped wagons could be floated across un- tween English. American and The N" (,omment Cornerâ€" . . thought he would like to build were invaluable when the coun- bridged rivers. Mr. Hoad also Canadian stage coaches. Learn- The Ottawa report on the distribution of the malls Shfit‘iiillifriisgfih‘iiwifil sellers... a iii “Uncle Louie" St. Laurent .. “the m... responsible _____.__________ W p 5" g 5 ° 35° one ° e ° Stages t a for the popularity of bilingualism . . .” vent of trains and motor cars. and Ottawa, he visited the Vil- . . Centennial year seemed an age, took photographs and Lynda Bird Johnston’s December 9 wedding to projects and as few covered “Oles- Baihg 3‘ blacmmhh. by Washington papers as “the wedding of the year”. wag‘ms °r Stage “’“hes 5““ trade' and a Shhed cabmet . . . This is like starting “He’s A Smoothie” in the vehicles which he re-created struction was not too difficult. . with meticulous care, in off However he did have to build be R0blh)- Pieces Of Canadiaha~ , ““1 f°r the curved ribs WhiCh The Ontario Institute for Studies in Education Before setting out his tools support the canvas top, was (Johnny-can’t-read, and other foul-ups) now wants able enough to bend. The only ‘ . _ . _ , _ R b” a, School Budgets , . , fittings bought ready made to see if curios1ty diminishes With age. . . . Well a“! "9 a “1' In Black found in a KinSSton antique be embarrassingly curious about the usefulness of shop. Both the wagon and stage 01 E by Elizabeth Kelson & Red the S - II . ’ take part in the big Dominion . t I. t . . . (The London Free press) Day Parade in Kingston, and Biggest squawk on Christmas toys this year is Parish - . . . . . . . _ . l ‘t‘ tion has emphasized that good Stlfice’ taheié havedaphefif‘Ed 13 Brother” doll. . . . An item which, come to think of Cultam. Father Brebeuf Slts at a tab e wri mg works catht be Performed 0“ 0 er p ta es‘ an on an it, could give both no-and-Yes _Support to the cur- Indian children before him. lined the blacks and reds of tourist attraction just standing 1051tY'dlmmlShmg'Vzlth;agf tsp“:- Thus begins the opening scene of “Children of 5°h°°1 fihahdhg and munidpal heme Mr‘ Hoads worksmp m l ’, . I ' ‘ ’ n I I u ° ‘ liltiOdfsoreSt written and directed by Kathleen mce' , ton‘ and the postal department is finally issuing them Open Newmarket Sr Citizen Home Dec I ' There Shohld he “0 "“51"” Irwin, the fourth youngest of dog-repellant guns. . . . That‘s the post office for o . . . . . ° J. Rhodes of Emmanuel Anglican Church, Richvale. its capltal works budget IS cut Hoads' nine children, was born ion Mr. and Mrs. Rhodes and daughter Ann moved to had‘ â€" by my “ouhc‘l °r on‘ on his parents farm at Elgin ' with 56 suites for senior citizens building was filled by eager Ontario Housing Corporation school building program W111 - ' W k ~ . . . . ‘ - his father had rented one at the QueStlon Of The ee _ "1 Newmarkct has proved so senior Citizen applicants as Newmarket Mayor Andrew ber' haVe to cut back accordingly. - 9 “We love this place,” said Mrs. Rhodes. Her Avenue and Bathurst Shem (Apart from Hamilton, by how many.) ing Corporation was swamped It is reported there were al- The federal government will be deep gratitude for the warm YBCeption they received Shh be left With the even more . ' . . _ , With applications. The entire most as many more applicants represented by Minister of finds expression in this little play, written to honor onerous task 0f deciding where Toronto, now the Slte Of St‘ headline type If the police ever REALLY find the . . ' ‘ ' " remembers hearing his older could not be given accommoda- the Ontario Government by ii - , , n . - It “”11 have clarified Its posmon - , _- SUTTON: Constable Vic Higgs tion. It is understood OHC is Minister of Economics and De- Chlldleh 0f the F019“ 15 a One aCt play Wlth that cutbacks there must be. brothers describe the way the) recently. He arrested Wayne apartment building near the dell, the minister responsible years he spent among the Huron Indians. The very astfsultng dedbeg‘turgjllwiff“ Chg" flrfitcfiggflfi‘rfl’i‘fiw “0“" n"r‘h‘Vlclorlan Christmas At MacKenzie House Foster, 20. and charged him site of the first one. for the Ontario Housing Cor- lovely Huron Carol is featured in the production. a” on y a" pm y ‘ “The Huron Carol should be known all over - - - ~ . , ~. . . . . _ problem, it is pomted out, is . . uncles car “as set on file. On Newmarket contains approx1m- prov1nc1a1 governments contri- the world,” said Mrs. Rhodes_ "Canada may be that some years ago a five-year gtgfiagultaitlh: :iiixcintlheiilgo/efoli: torical Board w111 again cele- "Mackenzie's Printing Estab- ' V' ian Christmas at ' v ' tures his constable stopped at his home of the four floors. The structure Following inspection of the Th 1 . l . 1. . London was reduced by $12: . I brate 3 mm lishment WhICh fee and called to his Wle to pllone has no basement and is built on suites in the new building a ere are 2 Speaklng r0165 and a mu tlp ICIty 000,000 by the Municipal Board. hls father to learn a trade Irwm Street. Toronto, the home of and the Mackenzie Gallery with matter. onryI construction with an at- held at the Legion Hall, Srigley and chieftans. Ann Rhodes has taken lessons in city for a reduction of $6,000,- Brillinger. Thornhill, leaving garlands, popcorn and cran- with his life_ overlook an en- Whue he was 0‘“ °f the cal“ ”acme hm“ faCingt It is Street. speech and drama and will be putting them to good 000 in school construction esti-xh‘m am“ 35 years “0 t° he‘ berry ropes, paper chains, rib- closed gal-den com-t, cruiser BWHY. and Constable insulation. two inches in the -electric apartment building for - - - - solved. 00W. Ontario. candles and many other hand- . . Higgs alerted other Police crui- walls and three and a half senior citizens is now nearing Since the production ls geared to a very Stud; It is not likely to be without At first there were lots of made decorations are used in 3:; alliasitnmffie thitgizbkrd tercepted at the Egypt Side- double windows in each apart- similar in design and size to of the work is Shared by members of the parish for education in Ontario or - - . - ' . ' , . _ . . fell off as farms became mech- show Christmas as it used to . . 1 d“ ht. To road. Still in handcuffs he fledment, the Newmarket building. It also Credits go to the cast and all the other indls- WlthOUt a reduction 1“ the Ed‘ anized, so he installed gas be. A delightful “Kissing legigféedthgy iiiiigteeiith-cen- captured at the junction Ofiobtrusive baseboa d 919 ti electrically heated. - . same problem in an even more . - - E lad is Highway 48 and the Sutton heating units, provriding “Icahn: __ presentation of the play pOSSIble. Among these are acute form has been confront- and concentrated on machinery Christmas tree in nga . be featured, around the tree, . ‘ - ' ‘ ble is laid for Christ- ,, . . . ,, H _ . . _ , . . ‘. . , , h kâ€" some sample sets of horseshoes dining is . _ of Victorian Christmas by gli:5;d_\‘::ate:“‘1:l‘&d fig; 32:32:12 rjgtfolhsfrmgittatfor em- am. Reeve Bruce Stewart and Mls. J Howard. costumes Mls. Betty Lomax and lhe United States “’ ere St“ and displayed them at local mas. usmg the china, Silver, many of the wemkmwn chain: a replica of one of the covered try was being opened up. Drawn felt an urge to copy one of the ing that Upper Canada Village new Canadian Order of Honor described recipient main highways before the ad- used to run between Montreal I' . e ‘I I“ appropriate time to tackle such measurements, and made many Marine Captain Charles Robb is being predicted in ' ' . k 11, th t I - . emt outSIde 0f museums‘ the ma er as we 8 ac “a con last furlongl (And it’s too bad that “Robb” couldn’t hours, will become valuable a special heated tank in which it s It o It k d ' h t'l l'- . . 508 e m M water um pl to use Metro school children for a research project were a pair of old coach lamps obviously it must, or our maturing taxpayers could coach were completed in time to ' 1 A Christmas Play For Emmanuel . . . The London Board of Educa- recelved eht “SlaStic attentlon- about an imported, 'anatomICally perfect “Little 3 letter to Champlain. He looks up to see three faith alone. It has also under- between times have been a taxation structures in this prOV- M0590” 25 miles from King' Over 700 mailmen were bitten by dogs last yea] Kathleen Rhodes 15 the Wife Of Rev. Wllham dersmnding’ says the board’ if the late Mr. and Mrs. Joseph you! It takes years and years to make a snap decis- The - . . . . . . . . . . . . _ . . . t o t t I new four storey budding pletely electric apartment man and managing director, the parish of Richvale on Mackay Drive m Septem- tarlo Munlc1pa1 Board the Mills. Before buying thls farm Popular that the Ontario Hous- soon as it was ready in October Doak will bring civic greetings The board, Of course, Will northeast corner Of St‘ Clair . i b . What’s the Toronto Telegram gomg to use for d ‘ ' ' . - ~ . the cutbacks will come But Michael‘s College School. Irwin - - Cl 9 accommo atlon in this com- £01 this rental housing who Labor Hon. John Nicholson and their first Christmas in Richvale. ‘ Mafia 1n Cana a. has been Plagued With troubles considering a second all-electric velopment Hon. Stanley Ran- two scenes. It is based on Father BreheUf and the Nor is it as simple a matter walked the cattle up Bathurst with ft th 1 ' ' ‘ - - council. Part of the board's . . . .. arson a er e atters This first OHC prolect at poratlon. Both the federal and After the misfortune 0f being This year the Toronto His-lare served to our Visitors. the way to Newmarket cells the ately 8 800 square feet on each bute to the pro' ' i ' lect- ' " ' " lbdtfth Ct f roud tha it r1 1 r. caplta u 89 0 e 1 Y 0 - ~ P t 0 glhated W th he Street Thornhill. Advised by Mackenzie House. 82 Bond hand-operated priming press Georgina Police on another concrete slabs. It is solid mas. reception and buffet will be of angels, tom-tom players, Indian braves, squaws A consequent request from the took up blacksmithing with A. Toronto’s first mayor. Cedar its display of objects associated Foster, in handcuffS. drove the thoroughly insulated with rigid In Richmond Hill another all- use in “Children of the Forest” mates has not been happily re- come the village smithy in MOS- bons, paper rosettes, cones, In keeping with the season a SEFS- Th ' ' -‘ ‘ - - - - . bud et redit for h ‘i -- - . . . e young man “as in inches in the roof. There are completion. This building is g l c t e tradlt Ohal COStumeS and muCh a reVlSlon 0f taxation support horses to be shod, but business the parlor and dining room to with hand-made ornaments and thi-ough a bush. finally being‘ Each of the 56 suites has un- contains 50 suites that are all- pensable people Who will make the production and ucation requirement itself. The pumps, and a little pop stand, Bough”. the forerunner of the fury picture, carol-singing will ‘â€" . . . . - ’ th arlor. The - Road. Two days later Constable even heat with no drafts Each BRADFORD: Mayor Joe Mag_ diamatic adVlsor Mrs. Steve Turtlebery, ass1stant ing major school systems in ”walls A year ago he made a feature 1“ e p throughout the ten-day period Deput_\'â€"reeve Fred Cook have Mrs. Joyce Walters, props Mrs. DOI‘OthY Everton, ing teachers have been VOtEd fairs. Now he is busier than glass, and the fare of that day.:from the schools and churches kicked when he “'38 called “'3‘ The Newmarket Senior Cili- been returned to office by ac- Sound R. Webster, lighting E. Fitchett, publicity salary increases by local “how ever but instead of farm horses In the basement kitchen. the? an accident between 8 car a"(l'zen Apartments will be offi clamation Nomin ’ ' ‘boards With no money in the - ‘ ' ' ' ‘Of Toronto. . -. . . - -. - aled fOF COUH- Bernice Lever and Caroline Cook. ' _,belng brought to his smithypwood-burning fireplace range. 3 “Wk. Driver 0f the car, Jim clall)’ opened at the site, 474 cil were James Catani, Peter; “11 to meet them, and further 7 ' ‘ . . ’ . ' ,' .' - - - lhe travels around the countrv,‘comes to life again for ladies' This popular event at Mac- Oliver, was being questionedlEagle Street on December 1 at Kleiss Fred Dow Arthurl A tape done by the 101k Chorallers \Mll proude more no authority for ralsmg. . .' . _ k . H will take place , . ' ~- - - , - ' loften as far as BelleVllle, Within period costume to prepare enlie ouse “he" h‘s hldel‘ brother Tomlll am. Turner and Melvin Irvin. Seven the Huron Carol mUSlC' that money. Ontario education, . . . - - ~ ’ ' December 8 , ' . , _ . . I I.- - ' _ is not m that anomalous Situa- a portable forge in his truck, to old-fashioned candy. In Ithe this year from $33113 lhdthzthscbiifiilrrs “ereiwiiihliérgarwOfSLihei-sphigrctiigiif lililihbeliorgdrhiifdsclighl tthOeal'dSIX'i The play “111 begin at 8 pm sharp December “on yet, but it is heading that shoe mettlesome hunters and family room. sweet apple clderlthrough December 17, from 12 (Continued on Page 12) way. show horses. or cranberry punch and cookiesmoon to 8 pm each daY. Canada Offers More Patient Services Three Week Tour Compares Cancer Society Programs In Six European Countries By MARGARET Md‘EAN tI‘llil- Leader 0f the group “'38 they stayed at the elegant BriStol Next stop was Copenhagen and Cardiff. Wales. "This was the hap- and advised that all of the ladies (all teaching is done "II Gaelic) Doctors in European centres Ml‘S- Egmont L- Frankel. PFESi- Hotel. Here also they toured 3 here they were conducted through piest of all surprises, it was like want to visit Cardiff again. and meeting the 50 boarding stud- consider Princess Margaret Hos- dent of the Princess Margaret new hospital which is under con- .3 modern research laboratory, a lovely fresh breeze and not the The next four days were spent ents who brought tears to her pital in Toronto the best in the Hospital All-““3131 Each mem- slruction and spent a morning staffed by a very cosmopolitan dull, dark mining town we had In Dublin and here they were eyes with the singing of not only world for both research and care ber paid her own way. with its Chief of Staff Dr. P. group of doctors. “It is obvious expected," said Mrs. Walter. greeted and entertained by top Irish songs but some Canadian ones especially in her honor. Flying from Shannon, Mrs. Wal- ter joined the group again in “None of it would have been possible without Mrs. Frankel." said Mrs. Walter. "We all got members of society, taken to beautiful country homes and given the warmest of welcomes. They of patients. This was one of the discoveries made by three area residents who Dcnoix who described the entire that they don't have as much set up for them. In France. the money as in the United States or ladies found. a cancer patient is Canada." said Mrs. Walter "but As elsewhere. they had a very full agenda. visiting the big hos- . -. . . . . . ~ , . , , pital and teaching school at the .- . . . travelled with six others assocv tlen'bll med but she h?‘”.‘“°l“‘d al\\aI_\sIIexamlned h" .3” "DPS 0f the) all seemed so loung and L'niversily of Wales. visiting the ”5'th cancer ”n"; “AS" 17m: 5‘ London. The stay there was lated with Toronto‘s Princess ess than beautiful oi failed to specialists â€" a medical man. is eager and all the doctors spoke laboratories. treatment rooms and Hume Street and t. nnes os- largely a social one, she reports speak graciously to people. She was also lots of fun.“ . . . pilals. the cancer clinic. While A unique organization in Card- surgeon. a radiologist. etc. before any treatment is prescribed. excellent English." and the group was entertained by Margaret Hospital and Lodge Aux- d h d r as WPII the Cana ian am assa o . iliary on a three. week tour of the rest of the group There is a very active cancer ' - ' . ~' . . . ' > 1 Mrs_ ~ Europe last month. to learn what ,ThIe ladies He“ first to 1‘,”de In Paris they also visited the society in Copenhagen. Mrs. Wal- iff Tenovus. has tremendously went on Ito central Emissid‘f as the Agent General of Ontario other countries ar doi o b t “he” the” host “as a \\calth.\ i ‘ G i ' R ' v - - ‘ - -' “alter “en! Off on a It e "my Iames S P Armstrong. Mr. and e n, a ou industrialist and son-in-law of nstltute us a\e- ouss). 3 er) tel reports and its members “ere aided cancer research and treal- of her own to visit Seamount Colâ€" ivjrs Ar‘msltrong took them to cancer and to study the organiza- . tion and activities of cancer soc- Franco. Senor Biosca. The) fouled - a beautiful large hospital, the . . leties. Villaverde. which is to open in fer described lt' , three months, one wing of which The cancer 50‘3190' there has old hospital, but clean “scrubbed keenly interested in the film the merit there. It was originally to the bare boards", as Mrs. Wal- Canadian group brought with started by just 10 men who or- them, showing the Princess Marg- ganized first merely to buy bed- aret auxiliary at ll'ork,_receiving lamps for hospitalized veterans. ~ - volunteer financial workers but patients, helping t em in various They went on from that small lcsaligel-besoiigtrihcesrpEififeiiii-Ss‘, €21? does not provide the same services ways, etc. "This was a surprise start and in the past few years ter advised, is led by heads of to patients 35 IS done here. In F0 the women there. The” 500‘ have raised over 500 thousand state. It has a beautiful office in fact. they found that nowhere lety has concentrated on educa- POURdS for a cancer program. lege, Kinvara on Galway Bay. This is a little story in itself: Over 10 years ago, Mrs. Walter read a small piece in our papers over here about a young Irish teaching nun who had won a prize for cookery. Interested in cook- dine at London's newest hotel, the . Russell Garden Hotel. Mrs. Walter was ill for the last two days of the stay in London and was unable to go with the group to visit the famous St. Luke‘s Hospital there. At her gracious country home. “Folly Farm" on Dufferin Street south of the Maple Sideroad. Mrs. Graham Walter told “The Liberal" how warmly the group was met everywhere they went and how highly esteemed are Canadian fac- ilities for treating cancer. Mrs, Lyman G. Henderson of Woodbridge, a director of the Canadian Cancer Society and Mrs. John S. D. Tory of Kinghaven Farms. RR 2. King were among the party who made the 22-day Madrid with a good library and holds a financial collection day just once a year. While in Spain the ladies visited royal palaces and the famous Prado Art Gallery. \icre enter- tained by Flamenco dancers and saw a fashion show by Balenciaga Next they flew to Paris where were similar patient services car- ried out by society members as is done in Toronto. At each centre they visited. the group was entertained by the Can- adian ambassador and met promâ€" inent people in all the cities. “I np\'9r saw so many lord mayors in mv life." recalled Mrs. Waller. tional work and fund raising." While in Cepenhagen they en- joyed the bountiful and delicious Danish food. were thrilled by an mening at the Royal Danish Bal- let and one evening took a quick trip by hovercraft over to Sweden for dinner. From Copenhagen they flew to Four members of the group were their hosts while in Cardiff. The auxiliary's film was shown again here, at a public meeting which Mrs. Frankel addressed. "The doctors at the hospital asked if they could bring their wives and the hall was filled in spite of a rainy night." said Mrs Walter ing herself, Mrs. Walter wrote to her about cooking seafood and the two have kept up 2 correspond- ence ever since. when she arrived at Kinvara. Mrs. Walter found that the sisters at the school had arranged every- thing for her .7 even for her to take part in an Irish huni' She also enjoiccl touring the school “I am amazed at the accept- ance we received from so many busy people,“ commented Mrs. Walter of her trip. The group was also appalled at the comparative waste that takes place over here. "So many things we take for granted here, don‘t even exist there", she said.

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