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"It is as unhelpful for teachers to say, ‘That‘s the board’s problem' as it is for trustees to say. ‘If you‘d rather be in Peel go there', “ he said ADMINISTRATION _ BUILDING In refuting charges that, in planning to build a new administration building, the board is weakening its arg- ument that it cannot afford more than the seven percent plus increase it has been paying the teachers since school opened in September. Honsberger replied on Novâ€" ember 20 as follows: “We are unable to renew the lease on our present building beyond 1976." (The board has been renting an old schoolhouse from the Town of Aurora since the county board was established in 1969). AMOUNT OPEN Wright said the amount of money to be made available wasn’t discussed with White at the recent meeting. The region staff and council must consider its expected further personnel requirements and other costs, as well as the timing of the powers transâ€" fer. ”Re gi o n representatives were to go back to their councils and do some home- work on staff and office (Continued from Page 1! problem as it appears to the other side of the table if the fairest and best solution is to be found. Provincial Treasurer White has called a third provincial- regional meeting at Toronto December 7, to include the ministers of housing, envir- onment and agriculture. Wright proposes to present York Region’s requirements for financing of as many as 38 specific transferred pow- ers on that date. By HAL BLAINE Unconditional per capita grants are to be made available to Ontario’s new regional munici- palities as early as January 1 to pay the costs of taking over certain planning and housing responsi- bilities, York Region Chairman Garfield Wright told this newspaper this week after returning from a provincial-regional conference at Toronto. Chairman Wright said consideration is to be given here immediately to the offer made by Inter- governmental Affairs Minister John Whiteand a report will go to York Region Council at Newmarâ€" ket for consideration November 29. New Region Pawers Get Grants “The cost of building an administrative centre (like all other capital projects) is not considered an extraâ€" ordinary expenditure and, as such, does not come under our cost ceiling.” Honsberger declared. “In contrast, when we lease space as we are doing now. a substantial fraction of the rent is considered to Teacher Pay Talks Continue . THEY COULD BE AT A “Y” RECREATION PROGRAM . THEY COULD BE CAMP COUNSELLORS. . THEY COULD BE AT A SATURDAY HOBBY CLUB. We are helping you - Will you help us?? TARGET FOR 1973 $15,000.00 This advertisement has cost us $264.20 o THEY COULD BE _______________________________ Are your conversations with your preâ€"schooler really stimulating? Kindergym is gymnastics and friendship for your child. Take-A-Break is friendship and program for you. ' YOGA IS IN _ TENSION IS OUT. These and many other activities are available at your YWCA. I10 YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR CHILRRER ARE? HELP US MAKE IT PAYI! 01‘ The board intends to build a structure which is func- tional, but one Which is as economical as possible, the negotiating committee as- sured the teachers and pub- lic. Unlike‘ their colleagues in Metro. the teachers have publicly declared their in- tention to continue to pro- vide the best possible serv- ices to the students, despite budget cutbacks and larger classes. “We are looking at 700 committee of adjustment ap- plications a year and ”IO-odd subdivision proposals. We have to assess the costs and staff required and have a report before council Nov- ember 29", said our region chairman. Also involved are rezonings, subdivisions. con- dominiums and Official Plan amendments. TRANSFER WELCOME Wright says the powers transfer is welcomed here in York Region. “We have said. give us back the controls," he said. TO HIT TAXPAYERS “Though the funds for such a building do not ad- versely affect the dollars available for schools, these funds do come from the taxâ€" payers, and ‘ the trustees have to be responsible to them to spend as little as possible and as wisely as possible.” said Honsberger. .Meanwhile. as talks go on. the secondary school teach- ers of York have been carry- ing on “business as usual". including after hours assist- ance to individual students and supervision of extra-cur- ricular activities. space,” said Wright of'the meeting’s conclusions. Wright notes that in 1968 statements by the responsin ble provincial minister the regions were promised grants} adjustments and transfer 0ft powers “when you have the; “In short. building an ad- ministrative centre will not reduce the amount of money available for teach- ers' salaries or other class- room expenditures. Leas- ing office space would.” be an operational cost and must be included in ex- penditure ceilings. j The York Region ‘ man said the established reg- ions at the recent meeting were ready to start the transfer of powers and the only reluctance came from the new regions that aren’t operative yet and where it is difficult for them to even assess the situation. “There will be a tremendâ€" ous amount of paperwork and research involved at the regional level. We are doâ€" ing a lot now, but nothing like it will be," said ‘Chair- man Wright. REGION PROPOSALS Regional governments are expected to table concrete proposals for the adminis- trative powers transfer at the December 7 meeting, meeting, emphasizing the province is anxious to ex. pedite the delegation of self- government authority to the pregional governments. chair- 1 White told the November 2 ' One particular impedi- ment to an earlier imple- mentation expressed to White was the difficulty some reg- ions were encountering in obtaining qualified planning and administrative person- nel and physical property tc accommodate expanding Reg- ional operations. The chairmen were in ac- cord with White‘s statement that he could see no reason why new responsibilities should be turned over to the regions at the same time He indicated that he, and his officials, were prepared to meet with the regions in- dividually to work out the mechanics. YORK BETTER OFF This took into account than some of the regions, the longer established areas sucl as York. Ottawa, Niagara and Muskoka, were possibl) in a better position to ac1 than the newer regions sucl Throughout the November 2 meeting White emphasized the desire of the provincial government to 'divest itself of legislative and adminis- trative powers it now holds but which, he contends, could be the responsibility of the regional governments. PROVINCIAL MONEY Provincial financial as- sistance would be available to the regions to cover these additional administrative costs through the availabil- ity of unconditional grants frorfi‘ the provincial treasury, White stated. Treasurer White urged the regional chairmen to go back to their respective councils for an inâ€"depth dis- cussion of the legislative transfers he proposed and to be back December 7 know- ing the attitudes and inten- tions of their councils. White noted it was evident the various regions will most probably be ready for the takeover at different times. and this will be all right with the province. He said he was prepared at this time to authorize such assistance for the balance of the current government 'fiscal year, and he would make available in his 1974-75 budget estimates additional monies for this specific purâ€" pose. This generated a general response from all regional chairmen that they would take advantage of this as- sistance, indicating a readi- ness to assume new legislat- ive responsibilities at an earlier date than anticipated, now that this provincial as- sistance with takeover costs was assured. FASTER ACTION This new attitude express- ing a more expeditious ap- proach to‘these new respon- sibilities could, in some in- stances, influence the com- pletion date of respective proper attitude,” He stressed that the grants would be’ “unconditional”. One particular impedi- ment to an earlier impleâ€" mentation expressed to White was the difficulty some reg- ions were encountering in obtaining qualified planning and administrative person- nel and physical property to The chairmen were in ac- cord with White‘s statement that he could see no reason why new responsibilities should be turned over to the regions at the same time. He indicated that he, and his officials, were prepared to meet with the regions inâ€" dividually to work out the mechanics. For those regions agreeâ€" able. it could mean the assumption of responsibility for amendment to their own Official Plans, including an updating of their inaugural dates; and the approval of Official Plans of municipali- ties within the region with- out reference to provincial authorities. LEFT N0 DOUBT Throughout the meeting, White left no doubt he was anxious to transfer many of the ministry’s regional gov- ernment responsibilities to the regional governments where, he declared, they rightly belonged. He urged the regional councils to give priority to assuming more self-government authorities, and promised all assistance possible from his officials to facilitate the transition. Whatever the extent of delegation of powers to reg- ional municipalities. White said he would retain the dis- cretion of “call-in”. This is the process of the minister partially withdrawing dele- gated power and placing the approval responsibilities for a particular application (sub- division, Official Plan, or condominium) back in the minister's hands. Official Plans YORK BETTER OFF This took into account that some of the regions, the longer established areas such as York. Ottawa, Niagara and Muskoka, were possibly in a better position to act than the newer regions such as Durham and Peel, which only officially come into be- ing on January 1, 1974. The latter are in various stages of basic organization. . White warned, however, that the respective regional governments should have the rcscurces and organizational structure available ‘before deciding on taking such an important step. A sub-committee of Reg- ional and department offi- cials was established to determine a procedural patâ€" tern for ministerial “call-ins“ and to present its recom- mendations to the December meeting. White emphasized he would exercise this authority ”very sparingly". 'Subdivisions Would Generate 13,000 People If it were possible to give a green light to all subdwi- sicn applications now in the hands of Richmond Hill Planning Department, the (own would grow by 2,750 homes on municipal water and sewage disposal (about 10,000 people), an additional 400 lots on municipal water and septic tank installations and 45 homes to be served by individual wells and sep- tic tanks. This would mean a total of» 3,189 additional dwelling units, generating a popula- tion of almost 13,000 people. Such was the startling an- nouncement of Planning Di- rector Hesse Rimon at the November 14 meeting of council's planning commit- tee. TREMENDOUS PRESSURE Thornhill Main Blew Richvale Taps Dry A fire hydrant blew off a major watermain in Thornâ€" hill at about 4:30 am Tues- day, spreading water supply problems north into Rich- mond Hill. Southern Richmond Hill and the Thornhill-Vaughan areas were at low pressure or without water for ‘a num- ber of hours as York Re- glen. Richmond Hill and Vaughan staff worked to make repairs. He reported tremendous pressure on his department to complete processing of these applications. “In many cases some financial commit- mean have been made by the developer which causes him to bring pressure on staff." he said. He went on to report that 12 applications are being Drecessed at present in the category of appflcations to Vaughan Town Engineer Dick Kraft said earth move- ment and frost were blamed for the hydrant breaking away from a 12-inch water- main on Yonge Street near the south‘entrance to the To- .ronto Ladies Golf Club. Kraft said the first report cf the break came at about 4:30 am. "A 12-inch main can make an awful hole in the ground," said Kraft. EMERGENCY ACTION Vaughan standby works crews are on half-hour all night call, but it would take afew hours to locate the proper valves and it,_wou1d take two men to operate the valves to isolate the break and stem the loss of water, the said. Hill Planners Swamped With Applications The broken main feeds all the streets to the south in have town water and sewage disposal services. Three have received draft approval by the Ministry of Inter-Go- vernmental Affairs and the BAIF condominium study has been completed'and the agreement closed. Nine pro- posals are still being stu- died and only two of these can be serviced on the basis of sewage capacity and wa- ter supplies now available. Eight of these are proposed for town water and sewage treatment. TERRIBLE SITUATION The planning director warned that. “We may find ourselves in a terrible situ- ation when services become available. By processing (the applications -to where draft approval can be recommen- ded, we would cause an inâ€" crease of land values in the promised development and in the vicinity, In the end result this would be passed on to the consumer. Th-ornhill, on the west side of Yonge Street. The break could have drained the Rich- mond Hill reservoir on Carr- ville Road, overloaded the Richvale area wells and spread trouble further north into Richmond Hill if ‘the broken main hadn‘t been closed off in time. With the break closed off, Vaughan workmen moved to open an old water connec- tion across Yong-e Street to the Markham Town System in Thornhill so Thornhill- Vaughan could have water until the break was repaired PRESSURE DROPPED As it was, Richmond Hill works department was cal- led about 6 am because wa- ter pressure in a large area of the town dropped drasti- cally. according to Works Commissioner Bernie Topo- rowski. “The dilemma is whether to proceed that far or leave the whole proposal in abeyâ€" ance until municipal services are available." he said. The former choice would mean the planning staff would not be forced to do the planning Staff found there was still water in the 250,000 gallon Carrville reservoir but an electrical problem had oc- curred in the pumping machinery and York Region staff responsible for the water supply equipment were called in. The pumping station was out of operation for a while and a large area in Richvale was without wa- ter between 6 and 9 am, said Commissioner Toporowski. and study in haste, so that they can look at larger areas and thereby indirectly assist in the preparation of the town's official plan. The alternative would create a great deal of pres- su're once servicing problems are solved and result in not as good planning. A man who claimed to he Jesus Christ after a pro- longed drinking bout in the Richmond Inn last spring, and then offered to take everyone on in the house. was given a jail term of one and a half years when he was sentenced last week in Toronto. Judge Walter Martin gave George Adjutor’ Lenneville, 25. of Oak Ridges. two con- current terms of 18 months in reformatory on charges of assaulting York Regional Police Constables Fred Mc- Neil and Larry Wall. He was convicted by a jury last week. A third alternative would be to leave everything 'to the provincial Ministry. The prcposals would then come back to the municipality for planning input. But this would put pressure on the government to supply the needed services. The formula would estab- lish guidelines to control timing, phasing and clearly set out that the town is not obliged to approve plans on a first come basis, he said. Regional Councillor Lois Hancey said she was pre- pared to endorse these re- commendations to council. Court was told that the 215-pound Lenneville took off his shirt in the lounge of the Inn, got up on the band- stand and challenged the gathering. It took four police- men finally to subdue him, as ather patrons threatened to hit "he police. with chairs. Spring Tavern Brawl SUGGESTS FORMULA Rimon suggested a formu- la be stablished to determine what and where develop- ments will be permitted when services are available. ”The basis should be on ra- tional considerations such as the availability' of parks. schools. etc.” “I would like to see a re- port on the financial ability of Richmond Hill to absorb so many developments. I would also like to see a po- licy established on severan- Ends In Jail Term Find a buyer through a classified ad in “The Liberal" on sale every Thursday. It’s easy to place your ad. Just call 884-1105 or 884-1983 FOR FAST RESULTS. THE LIBERAL, Richmond Hill, Ontario, Thursday, Nov. 22, 1973 SELLING YOUR BOAT? MAKE YOUR CHEQUES PAYABLE TO THE RICHMOND HILL & DISTRICT YWCA 25 YONGE STREET NORTH RICHMOND HILL - 884-4811 ALL DONATIONS TAX DEDUCTIBLE ces, since a sizeable popu~ lation can be created by dividing existing lots. It is also very important to know what the‘ municipality can absorb according to servi- ces." said Hancey. TRANSPORTATION PROBLEM Transportation should also be considered in determinv mg whether fulture develop- ment should be allowed, thought Ward 2 Councillor Graeme Bales. Mrs. Hancey finished off the discussion by saying, “This repovt is the sort of thing I‘ve been trying to get for 10 years." Members of the committee were asked to study the re- port and to be prepared to discuss it at the next plan- ning meeting. slated for December 12, before sending it on to council. 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Proâ€" ceeds for new Thorn‘hill Community Centre Complex. Door prizes. Tickets $6 each from Mrs. Alley. 889-4612 or Mrs. Ray 889-7839. c2-w20 NOVEMBER 22, THURS- DAY, 8 pm â€"â€" Richvale's monthly Euchre. 31 Spruce Avenue. Admission $1. Re< freshments. - clw21 NOVEMBER 24, SATURDAY. â€"Carrville Christmas Bazaar and Tea. 2 to 4 pm. Carrville United Church. Handcrafts. tea room. draw for home- made quilt. c2w20 DECEMBER 31â€"New Year's Eve Dance at St. Mary's Parish Hall. Dufferin and Yonge St. Live music by “Malloy's Shadows". Contin- uous buffet included. $15.00 per couple, Dancing 9 pm to 1:30 am. Bar. For tickets call Bridget Cummins, 773-4410. c1w21 NOVEMBER 30, FRIDAY â€"-â€" Rummage Sale at Maple United Church. 6:30 - 10 pm. c3w20 NOVEMBER 30, FRIDAY. 7:30 pm. â€" Teston United Church Calendar Bazaar. Gifts, sewing, home baking. etc. c2w21 DECEMBER 1. SATURDAY. 1 pm. â€"â€" Ladies of St. An- drew's Presbyterian Church, Maple are holding their Christmas Bake Sale at Ma- sonic Hall, Keele St., Maple. c2w21