Three planning firms have been commissioned by Vaughan to study the future land use potential of a 1,000- acre area near Maple, now being mined for gravel. According to Councillor Jim Cameron, the study is based on the premise that two different things,†Stephensor} says}. ' “What about bringing in a recorded vote next year?†he was asked. “The new council could bring in anything they wanted," Councillor Stephenson said. Development, or more precisely. redevelopment of the downtown, or old town core, occupied much of the meeting. Chairman Richard Hook opened the proceedings by asking the candidates what they would include in redevelopment. No pat answers And for an issue that was supposed to be at the heart of just about everything where the Town of Rich- mond Hill was concerned, not all the answers were that enlightening. “I haven't given it much attention," said mayoralty candidate David Schiller, “so I don‘t have pat an- swersâ€. Historically, the down- town core must be retained, he said. Also, better set- backs were needed, so the “landscape, or skyscape†could be retained. Citizens grill the candidates in crowded hall “So far as specific projects are concerned, I haven‘t thought that much about them," Schiller said. Retain the present and improve, rather than tear down, he concluded. Mayor William Lazenby saw it as an area which should preserve much of the old village amenities. with a small grocery store handy to all. The downtown area had professional offices, and with the development of senior citizens’ apartments, Duffy meeting Price in Ward 2 it was necessary to have such things as doctors’ offices and a food store nearby. Speaking at Monday night’s All Canadiates‘ meeting at Richmond Hill High School, candidate for the Ward 2 town council seat All Duffy supported public participation in municipal decision-making. He promised, if elected, to hold informal meetings to keep the people of his ward informed on what is hap- pening and to learn what they want to happen, Duffy said his training as manager for a consulting firm will help him find out the residents’ problems and to find a solution for them. (continued from page 1) He opted for a controlled growth rate every year. He said in the 11 years he has lived in Richmond Hill he has seen the population double and would like to see the community atmosphere retained. 2nd candidate Dorothy Price who has served on many boards and committees in Richmond Hill is the other candidate for the Ward 2 seat. She recalled her first public service in this town was helping to shepherd the THE LIBERAL, Wednesday, The Liberal is published each week by Metrospan Publishing Limi’ed. This newspaper is a member of me Canadian Communin Newspaper Associavion and the Audit Bureau of Circula'ions. 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Regional Councillor Lois Hancey said redevelopment also meant revitalizing the commercial area; it was essential to “include maintenance and retention of previous things and examine those things in questionâ€. For example: those stores on Yonge Street that could be converted to boutiques. 0n the record Mrs. Hancey said she was also “on record" to retain church spires and residential areas that were “characteristic†of the town; and for discarding that “which is no longer relevantâ€. Another regional coun- cillor, Gordon Rowe, felt it was a matter of traffic. But there was a problem they hoped to eliminate with the completion of Bathurst Street and Highway 404. Mr. Rowe said a financial study would have to be made before Yonge Street could be redeveloped. An application for He said also he “ap- preciated†the churches and felt by proper planning they could be retained. children to the newly built Walter Scott School through a sea of mud. “But I think there will have to be some develop- ment on Yonge Street,†he said. “I know you won’t all agree with me." Street improvement Councillor Lou Wain- wright, who is also running for region, said he would like to see some “proper storm sewers on streets adjacent to the high schoolâ€. She favors controlled residential and industrial development saying, “There is no way we can stop the growth but we can control it.†She quoted Federal Minister of Urban Affairs Barney Danson as saying of mobile homes, “This is the answer to the housing shortage.†She closed with, “You have to wear the shoes, you have to walk the roads, before you know what it’s all about.†150 citizens The meeting called by the Civic Improvement Com- mittee and chaired by Sam Hall was attended by about 150 people, approximately the number who would have attended a nomination meeting in the days when they were held. Since separate all- candidate meetings have been held or will be held in four of the town’s six wards, this appeared to be a reasonably good turnout. Nov. 27, 1974 \ID recovery plant operation on 10 acres and a 50-acre sanitary landfill site has been forwarded by Crawford Sand and Gravel. A hearing of the Environ- mental Hearing Board is still pending. Also, reconstruction of sidewalks in the old town and some “reforestrationâ€. In the future, one-way streets would be needed to accommodate the new town fire truck. Eric George, running for Regional council, said redevelopment was “one of the stronger planks in my platformâ€. “I feel we need to retain our commercial areaâ€, he said, “not change it into boutiques. We need a bigger population for that.†A positive parking policy was needed, because when a town went out to find ad- ditional parking space, no downtown area could sur- vive. The Official Plan should encourage refurbishing the fronts of downtown stores . . . buildings should be architecturally designed to suit the community. Horn blows At this point, Mr. George got the horn from the chairman signifying his five minutes were up. However, he managed to add the town hall should be kept where it is, and the residential area needed .road repairs, before getting permanently silenced by a second horn. Bill Fuller, of Oak Ridges, regional council candidate number 5, said he wasn’t too familiar with the area in question. However, trees had been mentioned and he’d like to point out it took years to grow a tree, but only a few minutes to destroy one. Earlier this month council He didn’t elaborate on the trees, or anything else for that matter, but he did in- vite the gathering to Oak Ridges and Fuller Auditorium “to show you what it’s all about". Councillor Stephenson also spoke in favor of redeveloping the downtown area, with boutiques, doctors’ offices. et a1. He said he was a promoter of off-street parking, and as new development took place, the developer should provide his own parking. That should be part of the site plan agreement, he said. Yonge St. core Said Marylo Graham: “Development has horrifying connotations to those of us who have feelings about the amenitiesâ€. Church spires rising from the trees were symbolic of Richmond Hill. People should also recognize that behind the narrow Yonge Street core, a variety of houses were left that were more symbolic of the old town. “We shouldn’t sacrifice that to compound or rectify the errors of the past when Yonge Street merchants were driven out of business by the over-expansion of commercial outlets before Richmond Hill had the population to support them,†Mrs. Graham said. She said she was “con- vinced there is a future". They could have nearby stores,†as Mayor Lazenby pointed out and as many of us remember and still have office space and possibly apartment space, if there is rezoningâ€. Questions, answers In the question-and- answer period that followed, considerable concern was expressed about keeping outside traffic from using the area within Bathurst. Vaughan Road, Yonge and Elgin Mills Road as a through area. It should be preserved for local traffic, was the feeling. Those candidates who spoke on the matter, agreed the area should remain basically residential, and any widening would change the character of the neigh- borhood and encourage through traffic. However, Councillor Wainwright came up with what was probably the most succinct observation on the situation. “We may not have ar- terial roads," said Mr. Wainwright, “but they're sure as hell being used as arterial roads." His comments were greeted with a hearty round of applause. rejected Cameron’s recommendation that Vaughan seek a post- ponement of the hearing until the study is complete. A motion from Regional Councillor Jack Gilbert leaves Vaughan with the option to support an 313' Future population Asked what he thought of the proposed population figure of 105,000 by the year 2000 for Richmond Hill, Schiller said that was a figure proposed by the region. However, the point was how fast they were going to grow in the next few years. He said BAIF figures showed the first stage of Phase 11 was set for 2,949 people, while the second stage of Phase 11 was set for 4,950. Zoning approval had been given, but additional sewer capacity was needed. Stage 1- consisted of single family, semis and townhouses, already to go. Stage 11 was for town houses and apartments, adjacent to Bathurst _Stre_et. The apartments in the area and stage 1 of Phase 11 represented 15 1/2 percent growth over this year’s population. That's the kind of growth rate I’m afraid of,†said Schiller. “This town’s on the verge of a boom. Let’s make sure we imbed a policy so we don’t blow this town apart.†Scarfe tactics Said Mayor Lazenby: I lived here in ’57 when we doubled it in two years and I don’t want to live in that again . . . I think those are scare tactics". Councillor Stephenson said the rate of growth for BAIF was as follows: 269 units in 1972, 344 in 1973, 103 in 1974 and 500 predicted for 1975. BAIF had been inherited from Vaughan and Rich- mond Hill was committed to a new population of 13,000. No applications were before council to date for stage 11, Stephenson said. “If there are 30,000 people some day, it can be done intelligently and balanced with good industrial assessment,†Stephenson said. Golf club sold Some other issues presented from the floor: What kind of zoning would they consider for the Rich- mond Hill Golf Club property? Stephenson: “We haven’t received any applications for zoning. I understand it’s been sold . , . It would have to be compatible with Ward 4 â€" single-family dwellings and large parklandâ€. He said éouncil would try to retain the stream running through the property. _ _ _ Graham: “Why should the golf course be developed? It’s zoned for open space now. We don’t have to rezone because the developer asks us to". It could be used as a public golf course or a parkland, Mrs. Graham said. 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The consultants to work on the study are Comay Planning Consultants Limited, John Bousfield Associates and Paterson Planning and Research Limited. rest of the area. Race course Q~Ihad never heard of the proposed race course (18th Avenue and Con- cession 3). Why was the meeting ‘in camera"? These people were said to be connected with it â€" is that right? Jim Stepehenson brother of Dave; former councillor Shaun Beggs, Dalton Hicks of Gormley Sand and Gravel, and John Bosworth, a Newmarket businessman. Lazenby â€" The land concerned is 130 acres north east of Elgin Mills and Leslie Street â€"â€" to facilitate the removal of the present fair grounds. The proposal was made to council by Hicks and Bosworth. They intimated they had ap- proached Jim Stephenson. Shaun Beggs? It’s a mystery to me how his name is connected with it. We brought the fair board in as we wanted their approval . . . When we move our fair there, they will have no facilities. This would be a good compromise. 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